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04/06/2020 4:36 pm  

I'm big on law and order - destroying property, throwing stuff at police, kneeling on necks, extorting foreign leaders for political favors.... I take a dim view of all these things LOL. 

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04/06/2020 5:20 pm  

A little light relief after all this intense discussion:

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04/06/2020 7:04 pm  
 

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04/06/2020 8:11 pm  

Choimhead mi a ’bhidio agus cha mhòr nach do chuir mi a-mach.

I'll leave it at that.

It's true that the Hebrides (where I was born) was a deeply religious place. It was home to a particularly oppressive form of Calvinism. The Church of Scotland, known throughout the rest of Britain as a very austere denomination wasn't radical enough for clergy in the islands and they broke away to form the Free Church of Scotland, which later became the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland. Those guys weren't exactly fans of fun. Celebrating Christmas was outlawed, as were hymns, and if you so much as sneezed on a Sunday, you were probably committing a sin. Although hymns were outlawed, they did sing psalms, unaccompanied because musical instruments were frowned upon, and without harmonies. The result can be rather beautiful. There is a long tradition of unaccompanied Gaelic singing in the Hebrides.

 

 

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04/06/2020 11:10 pm  

So... you've always had a natural aversion to legalistic/authoritarian forms of Christianity/religion then?

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05/06/2020 2:23 am  

Good grief, Now James Mattis, Joe Brees, and a 75 y/o white protester... do you see how the media continues to escalate and perpetuate this "America is racist and oppressive" narrative? 

At this point I wish all the cops would just quit, just say "screw it!" Let the military handle it! This is now a propaganda war that needs a decisive end. Cops do not get paid enough! This is not their job!

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05/06/2020 10:47 am  

You see this as a propaganda war? I give up.

Actually, I do kind of give up for now because I'm going to be busy today and probably won't have time for this discussion. 🙂

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06/06/2020 7:37 pm  

Accountability... ACCOUNTABILITY!?! Has the world lost its mind?

A criminal forfeits his "unalienable rights" in any lawful society upon committing a crime, this is what quantifies apprehension and incarceration. A law enforcement officer is therefore equipped, trained, and authorized to meet illegal hostility with whatever force necessary. The officer restrains and detains criminals so that the law can hold criminals accountable. The very presence of law enforcement officials should not only be considered a deterrent for illegal activity, but should also be respected and even feared for their lawfully delegated authority. To stand in opposition to law enforcement is to stand in opposition to the law. Understand, it is because of that delegated authority that law enforcement personnel are held to a higher legal standard. Yet, each of them understands, in order to do the job, they must place themselves in harm's way by swearing an oath to protect law abiding citizens and serve the common public welfare. To place law enforcement officers in harm's way and not expect bloodshed is grossly ignorant. Suggesting that law enforcement is the problem every time a black criminal is injured or killed during an arrest is intolerably absurd. Marching in the streets nation wide and labeling anyone who stands behind law enforcement as racist is insulting, belligerent, willfully inciting public criminal discord, and should be held accountable to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, since a crime of this magnitude is far beyond what any normal policing agency can contend with. Furthermore, those in higher office like Mayor Muriel Bowser and General James Mattis owe this nation and its commander in chief a tearful apology for allowing divisive political opinion to subvert lawful common sense.

The equation here is simple; If you consider yourself to be a free and proud American, then THERE ARE NO MINORITIES IN AMERICA! If you don't believe in and hold dear to your Constitutionally protected rights as an American citizen, then you are the separatist... YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!

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06/06/2020 10:07 pm  

That's some scary stuff, T. Nobody forfeits their inalienable rights - that's the very definition of inalienable. Those rights don't include the right to indulge in criminal behavior, but they do include the right to due process.

I would agree that law enforcement has the right, you could even say the duty, to tackle "illegal hostility" with whatever force is necessary. But that word "necessary" is important. I have seen far too many instances of police beating up people for no discernible reason. Of course, these actions of the police, together with the actions of criminal elements mingled with the demonstrators are the things that are propagated on social media with the result that both sides get to feel outraged at these actions and generalize from them to see all police as brutal or all protestors as criminals. There will not be viral videos of the demonstration in downtown Hickory, North Carolina tonight where 500 kids and parents made their voices heard and the police basically hung out with them. I had friends and relatives who were there, demonstrating and policing.

As for your other arguments. If they were true, you would have a Queen now, instead of a President. Actually, given the current occupant of the White House, that might not be such a bad thing LOL.

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06/06/2020 10:20 pm  

Yea'..., I suppose "due process" is important... IF YOU'RE INNOCENT.

You can't have it both ways Gav... You can't arm police with cotton candy and kind words and expect them to do their job. Criminals are certainly never going to take moral inventory of themselves...

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06/06/2020 10:41 pm  

Due process is important in all circumstances. It's what allows the determination of whether you are innocent or guilty. What you are proposing is a police state. The weather in Moscow is pretty nice at this time of year, but come November it gets a lot colder than Alabama LOL.

On a lighter note, the Philadelphia Police Commissioner is called Danielle Outlaw 🙂

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06/06/2020 11:04 pm  

See, that's where you're confused Gavin. In "AMERICA" everyone is innocent until proven guilty... OR CAUGHT RED HANDED! We have a two party system and love free speech, Bibles, guns... America is a Constitutional Republic, not "a nation of laws" as the Queen would have it... or Obama, Hitlery, Slow Biden...

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06/06/2020 11:11 pm  

I think I'm done with this thread. I knew I should have stayed out of it, but it started out so nice 🙂

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11/06/2020 9:23 pm  

I want.... to be a friend of all colors
I'd love.. to see the pride in all nations
I want.... to welcome a world without borders
I'd love.. to share all of creation

I want to believe that all people
Truly desire to be equal

But I struggle to be
Just a soul in the crowd
Who wants to be free
But I'm not allowed
I'm not allowed

I want.... streets unstained with blood
I'd love.. for days of war to be through
I want.... to be honest and not be judged
I'd love.. to be me unafraid of you

I'd love everyone to see
How easy it is to agree

I stand right next to you
Just a soul in the crowd
Dying to tell the truth
But I'm not allowed
I'm not allowed

I guess studying Biblical prophecy for so many years has taught me, even trained me, to maintain a broader perspective... to focus on the bigger picture. What's happening in America right now isn't about race or inequality among minorities, as evidenced by the fact that the United States has always welcomed the most immigrants of the world. If even half of what ANTIFA and BLM were propagating right now was real, during an election year, their so called "movement" would never have even been allowed to start... George Floyd wouldn't have even made the news. Believe me, as a veteran, I know what a racist totalitarian regime is. Why do you think the entire world is so willing to get behind this protest? Is it because America is truly so racist? No, it's because America is the only place where such a protest CAN happen. America, as usual, leads the fight for equality and human rights! What do you think makes the US Constitution so unique? It's truly sad that this human rights issue has been hijacked by political activists during an election year, when it should be plainly obvious that what's happening is just a symptom of a much larger GLOBAL problem that has always been there...

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13/09/2020 9:23 pm  

FACTS... From 1710 to 1807 Great Britain was the most prolific slave-trader on the planet. 2,870,000 Africans were sold to the Americas equaling 1/3 of all slaves sold by the *SIX* slave trading European nations of that time. Slaves purchased from the warring American Indian tribes are estimated to be in the 10s of thousands, but African slaves were preferred because Indians would just run away. Indian males were notoriously non-compliant because they considered farming woman's work. So you see, even the Indians were practicing slavery long before the settlers arrived here. In fact, the Indians would chop off a slave's foot so he couldn't run.

The surrender at Yorktown, VA marked the end of America's war of independence from Great Britain on October 19, 1781 led by General George Washington with a little help from the French. Start paying close attention to the timeline now...

The "Anti-slavery Republican Party" was born in a Ripon, Wisconsin schoolhouse on March 20, 1854 and Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president in 1860. At its birth, the Republican Party had no presence in the Southern United States. The Democrats controlled the national government from 1852 until 1860, and Presidents Pierce and Buchanan were friendly to Southern interests. The Southern Democrats (Dixiecrats) insisted slavery was "national". In "The Cornerstone Address" Confederate Vice President Alexander H. Stephens stated, "The negro is not equal to the white man; Slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition."

Abraham Lincoln leads the Union to victory in the American Civil War (April 12,1861- April 9,1865/ his entire presidency) abolishing slavery, and was assassinated April 15, 1865. The KKK was born December 24,1865 in Pulaski, TN to keep law and order in the decimated South, and "Southern Reconstruction" lasted until 1877.

The southern states remain Democrat until the passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964, largely attributed to Martin Luther King jr who was assassinated April 4,1968 in Memphis, TN. Vice President Lyndon B Johnson, Democrat from Texas, assumes the Presidency after John F Kennedy is assassinated November 22,1963, and serves until 1969. As Democratic Senate Majority Leader in 1957, LBJ voted against Civil Rights for obvious North vs South reasons. However, just five days after JFK's assassination, LBJ champions the Civil Rights Act while reportedly referring to it as the “n***** bill” in more than one private phone conversations, and stating "I'll have those n*****s voting Democrat for the next 200 years." To this day most Blacks in America are still slaves to Democrat ideology / victimology and still vote Democrat, despite the fact that Republicans have won most presidential elections in the South since 1964. However, it should also be noted that, even though the KKK is mostly regarded as a toothless dog, politically it does still exist and Democrats still controlled nearly every Southern state legislature until the mid 1990's...

Here's the point... Republicans have never owned any slaves. US Republicans are never given credit for leading the cause of Civil Rights and abolishing slavery WORLD WIDE. Arrogance and ignorance are dangerous bedfellows who have no regard for history, and anyone who would disregard the truth for political gain is not my brother.

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