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ckiphen
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Come on and post your lyrics too! Lets wake this site up. 

carroll kiphen


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Gary E. Andrews
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Since you post so frequently I suggest you start posting in a Showcase, a single post to which you add each new product.
That way your posts don't push everyone else's down and off the 'front' page list in a matter of days.
Yours would constantly be restored to the top of the list with each new post, but others would see theirs stay on the page longer, perhaps enduring longer and sparking interest by commenters, and giving the member a sense of longevity in the site.
My Showcase is getting cluttered.
Perhaps, in your case, since your product is so prolific, you may want to start a new one each month.
ckiphen Feb. 2021 Showcase.
ckiphen Mar. 2021 Showcase.
If you try it and don't like it, you can always return to your current practice.

Despite 1,000's of years of Songwriting humans have not exhausted the possibilities. There will always be another Song to be written. Someone will write it. Why not you? www.garyeandrews.com


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Gavin
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Gary, I think I've said before that I find your showcase a bit difficult to navigate and sometimes feel that you would get more feedback and reaction if you posted in the normal way. However, I think the idea itself is a really good one. I'll have a word with the admin and see if he is open to creating a Showcase section, separate from the main lyrics forum, somewhere that people can post their best lyrics 🙂

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Gary E. Andrews
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Yes Gavin, and, again, if you'll refer that clamoring crowd to me I'll help them with navigation.
I've never gotten feedback or reaction. Not in 14 years at Songwriter101, and the two years here.
Some people try, some just being courteous. Most aren't good at analytics or expressing themselves, so it comes to nought. I have gotten private messages that say they learn from my comments on other peoples' works.
Others give comments that I conclude are revenge for their perception of my feedback on their works having been aggressive or non-constructive, a hazard of the printed page, so I don't bother them any more.
Some don't seem to have read the Lyric, their comments implying things aren't in it, that are, or are in it, that aren't.
One guy wanted to know what the hell a 'bomb fire' was. The word was 'bonfire'.
No one talks about Structure, Components of a Song, the Stanza-Type Chorus, versus the Refrain-Type, the duration of the Introductory Movement, or the Coda, to end, the use of a Bridge, when it is 'necessary' or can serve a desired function. No one talks about coherence of thought in a Lyric, Storyline, plot. No one talks about the Singer-Character, the persona in the Song, be it fictional or some personal experience they're writing about, or the Love-Interest Character, the Other-Character.
No one really talks, at all. We just post. And time passes. 
I don't see anyone else getting much of either either, comments or reaction.
Hey! Either either. I hate when people say had had or that that. Now I can hate either either too.
One thing we do seem to get is a lot of views. Someone's visiting, looking around, seeing whatever there is to see there.
Sometimes, there's no there there.
All that prompted me to do essays as well as Lyrics, hoping to bring together things I think I've 'learned' in critiquing Lyrics, those things about Structure, etc., that I perceive people do not employ in their works.
If a Lyric makes me think, has some merit, or a tune seems well put together, I try to give feedback, especially when they first post, sort of a welcome, hey, we're alive here, but I can't keep telling the same person the same things over and over. That would be rude. So, if they don't seem interested in my feedback, repeating the same things I cited as flaws, Lyric after Lyric, or object to my critique directly, I don't bother them any more. That's not what they're here for. One woman said it was great to see posts that weren't years old, as she had on other sites.
If the clamor gets too great I'll certainly revert to the disappearing mode, where you post, the Song is quickly pushed down and off the front page, and disappears into the numerous pages of the past. Being able to retrieve all my posts without searching through the jungle seems like a preferred modus operandi for me. I can refer someone to a post that is two years old, and they can easily view it, if their desire to do so overcomes the difficulties of navigation. If not, in a hundred years, it won't matter.

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ckiphen
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Guilty as charged as to not commenting enough on others lyrics. I'll try to do better.

carroll kiphen


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ckiphen
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Guilty as charged as to not commenting enough on others lyrics. I'll try to do better.

carroll kiphen


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Gavin
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@gary-e-andrews

Gary, you are always so generous with your comments and advice and give more detailed feedback than anyone on any forum I've been on. In fact, I even remember you being the first to give me feedback on my very first post on SW101. I'm pretty sure everyone values your advice but you don't seem to get much in return. Did you see the Admin announcement about the Lyrics Showcase sub-forum? The idea is that you can post a new lyric in the regular Lyrics Library forum, where it is most likely to be found immediately and then copy it over to the Showcase, where it won't get buried by others' contributions. I set you and Carroll up with your own folders as you were the ones involved in this discussion. Others will follow on request.

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Gary E. Andrews
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Yes! I see that! Now I have to get off my hind...legs and post something! Thank you.

Despite 1,000's of years of Songwriting humans have not exhausted the possibilities. There will always be another Song to be written. Someone will write it. Why not you? www.garyeandrews.com


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