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Robbi
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Hi guys,
I need you to share your expertise with me. I just wrote this song called "The Older I Get The Less I Know" together with Carroll Kiphen. My son just listened to it and immediately claimed that I stole the chorus melody from Ava Max's "Kings and Queens".

Can you guys give it a good listen and share your thoughts with me. I agree it's close, but is it too close? Do I need to change it?

All the best
Robert

THE OLDER I GET THE LESS I KNOW
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Verse
I've met a lot of people
I've listened and learned
I've made my share of mistakes
What I know I've earned

Verse
The world around me's changing
I struggle to cope
I find myself in distress
Hanging on to hope

Pre chorus
There's a new reality
I don't understand
I'm the curiosity
An old-fashioned man

Chorus
I thought I'd continue to grow
But the older I get the less I know
I thought I'd continue to grow
But the older I get the less I know

Verse
I'd like to think my knowledge
Is worth more than gold
But as the years keep rolling
There's more I don't know

Pre chorus

Chorus

Bridge
The tide is turning
Nothing is the same
The world I was born into
Is now part of yesterday


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John Evans
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Yeah I would have never thought the two were similar at all. Maybe a slight similarity now that it's pointed out, but I would not worry about it.

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Gavin
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I think your son is right. When I listen closely, it is basically the same, but I wouldn't have noticed it if it weren't pointed out. Also, it's fairly straightforward. I would be surprised if she were the first to use the melody and chord progression. Everyone borrows from everyone else, usually without knowing it.

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Guy E. Trepanier
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In both songs, there is a similarity in the melody of the chorus.

It seems that you both use the same chord progression (different key).

Both songs sound like something that the group ABBA could sing.

99,9% of songs have a chorus that ends with the cadence V7 to I.

Have fun!

 

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Robbi
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Hey guys,

thanks to all of you for the great feedback. It looks like everybody hears this song a bit differently. I’m not sure what I’m going to do with it. Right now, I’ll just let it settle a bit. I don’t plan on changing the playback but I might try to come up with a slightly different chorus melody. Thanks again!

All the best
Robert

 

 

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Robbi
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Oh no!!! My chorus melody is a copy of both Ava Max’s “Kings and Queens” AND Bon Jovi’s “You Give Love A Bad Name”? What? In my song I ripped off the chorus of both songs? Hey, this is crazy. How can this be possible? Why isn’t anybody claiming that Ava copied Bon Jovi? I think I have to give up writing songs.

All the best
Robert

 

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JAPOV
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Oh, that wouldn't be any fun at all Robert! 😉

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popitup
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Robbi . . . fortunately for all of us, there is no copyright infringement for similar chord progressions . . . after all, we all have an equal share in tonality, and can do whatever we want . . . anyways, you won't have to worry unless the song makes millions, then some lawyers might knock on your door ?


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