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Bernd
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"you are the light"?

Just take your pick from any of the first x songs. I always love my latest baby most, that's not a good guide.


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Hibernia
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NEIL COTTON
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Trop Rock CANADIAN BAKIN' (Neil Cotton)


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Gavin
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Neil, I love Canadian Bakin. Made me think of Jimmy Buffet. Listening to the other tracks. on Easy Street is great too. My hat is off to you ?

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Songwriter Junction
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Neil, I added some of your songs to the Songwriter Junction Spotify playlist.


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NEIL COTTON
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Gavin, Trop Rock....That's the target genre .
Thanks


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NEIL COTTON
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Admin.,
Thanks so much for the additions to Spotify.


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Mabbo
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Just a note to keep in mind on Spotify and Pandora. They have now determined that due to the changes in digital laws, Spotify has determend to HAVE OVERPAID songwriters. So now, those of you heavily involved in those platforms maybe owing money. So tha .0000002 cent check you are getting may have to be partically refunded. And you thought you would be swimming in money. LOL!

Marc-Alan Barnette


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Gavin
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MAB, I don't fall into that small fry category with .0000002 in earnings. I have $1.88 at risk from this. I had heard something about this. Am I right in thinking that so far only the companies themselves have "determined" that they have overpaid, and they still have to convince the court?

Really, I have my stuff on Spotify so that friends and family can find me. It seems to be the service most people use.

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Mabbo
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Gavin,

Actually they have already WON in the courts. I only talk about this when I see it pop up on dozens of sites, songwriter sites, facebook, You tube, when you get large across the board outrage, you know there is some not good stuff going on. Most of the professional writers that I know even with huge hits have seen their incomes so diminished, the majority have simply quit music completely. And the ongoing joke is always the photos of ASCAP, BMI SESAC statements and checks of less than a dollar. So you are in pretty good company.

SPOTIFY AND PANDORA have turned into the Devil in the details, and the modern day evil of the industry. Everyone has to use them to get their stuff out there, they claim they are paying billions out but no one can offer any proof of that and they burn through enormous amounts of cash that can't be accounted for. Pandora has gone through about $5 billion dollars and Pandora around $6-$8 billion and are asking for more money. No one can quite figure out where the money is going. My personal feelings is that one day everyone will wake up and those platforms will be gone with the owners in some non-extritition country claiming bankruptcy. We've seen it over and over again, with stock companies, with utility companies and a lot of white collar crime all over the world. From China and intellectual property theft, and other worldwide issues there is not much we can do about it. So until it implodes or there is another option (and usually another company will come along, always have been and always will) people will continue to do it.

Personally I don't use any of these because of the principal. I don't want to be associated with these things that have been the death of commercial songwriting. So I don't. I don't stream music and keep mine mostly on my own web site and on things like I Tunes which I don't care for either.But it is where we are. I have always stressed to people to not be so focused on monetary issues when it comes to any creative art. But people are always trying to find a way and I applaud that. Just don't get too wrapped up in all of this because it will change on you and one day it will be gone, replaced by something else.

My entire deal is just to remind people that it is never what it seems and if you find good in it, use it, but be aware of the other side of the coin. There is always another shoe to drop.

MAB

Marc-Alan Barnette


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ckiphen
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Yep I had a song on the radio overseas and it's on Spotify. If they mail me a check I'd owe most of the postage back it would take to mail it.

carroll kiphen


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Gary E. Andrews
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MartinG
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Hm, unfortunately I cannot listen to the playlist, I don´t have a Spotify Account. I don´t believe in Spotify. I don´t use this Streaming-Stuff anyway ... I am still this kind of "I listen to the whole Album of an Artist" and prefer to by it on Vinyl. The idea, of having the ability to listen to every song that was ever released on Spotify, Youtube and so on and so force makes it worthless.

 

Every once in a while I get in the mood or so... and start to play...


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ckiphen
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They rip off the artist! 2/1000 th of a cent per play! I wrote lyrics for an Australian artist that he put on spotify. Got a decent amount of radio time but ive never seen a dime.Was the last straw as far as me ever hoping to make any money writing.

carroll kiphen


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Gavin
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Carroll, I don't think you can blame Spotify for problems with payment for radio play.

Martin, I guess John and Jen are going to have to make a vinyl album for you 🙂

Spotify is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, they pay very little. They might justify this by comparing themselves to radio. One play on the radio might reach thousands or tens of thousands of ears. One way to determine what is "fair" for a Spotify listen might be to divide the fee paid by radio by thousands or tens of thousands. Difficult to do, especially as it would require knowing how many are listening to a particular station at a particular time and because of the way payments are divided amongst various right holders, but as a general argument, it has a certain logic.

The positive side is that they allow people who would not be able to monetize their work in this way at all to do so. In most cases, the amount of money that is involved is so small as to make this benefit irrelevant. Another benefit is that people are more likely to listen to new stuff when it is "free" - once you have paid your subscription, it costs you no more to listen to a new song. So, smart performing musicians can use the platform to gain exposure and hope to attract people to live performances, which may be the only remaining way to be economically viable as a musician. And people still buy CDs at live performances, though probably not as much as before and maybe not for much longer.

Just my two cents, which I earned on Spotify last month.

I may or may not be an enigma
http://mysteriousbeings.com


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