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Deacon
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Hey Rhys, if you open a tab at "Russell's Drive-Thru" for OD, could you open one up for me at "Archie's Crab Shack" in LA (Lower Alabama) down around Mobile?

Music is an international language, say it with a song. deaconmusic4u@gmail.com


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RhysFraser
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Will I ever! With finances like mine I’ll open a tab with anybody reckless enough to extend me one! 😛

https://m.soundcloud.com/rhys-rj-fraser/sets/on-a-song-that-i-wrote


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I can give you some advice worth more than any review,   ONE  --A songs lyric needs a start a middle and a finish

TWO  -- Dont Tell Show  ?    ----THREE ---As far as  Demo Quality  Yes its okay to have just one instrument as

a backing track

FOUR --- Vocal  wise make sure every word  can be heard,  Vocals coming and going is a turn off to any proper

evaluation   FIVE --- If you are getting reviews on this site or any  other , all well and good  but make sure you  

you review  others in return , as this  process can improve our own writing as well  

SIX  ----  If you dont like what someone says  about your lyrics --music-- or demo quality , take the time to thank

that person for their time, if  you belive they are wrong, explain WHY!!!

HOPE THIS HELPS     

 

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RhysFraser
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Hey Peter, hope you’re well. Ummmm, first off I do want to apologize if you saw my response last time you shared your thoughts with me. I took it personally and was rude in my response. Deleted it immediately, but if you saw it I’m sorry. You’ve got as much right to share your views here as I do, and I’ll respect them and that.

Anyways, as far as your comment, for clarity’s sake I’ll respond according to your number scheme

1) If something starts, it has to end! 😛 I know I don’t always adhere to expectation on structure, but honestly I don’t rrally want to, so if you don’t like it, ‘it’s what it is. There’s lots of other music out there!

2) I try!

3) Glad to hear you think the single instrument thing is okay. I’ve been working on filling out my sound w/ limited resources and I think I’m making progress

4) I’m working on it! Not there yet, but I’m progressing on enunciation

5) I probably need to be more active in offering feedback to others. Tbh I’m not overly comfortable opining on other people’s work and and not very critical, but I should try to help where I can

6) Thanks for your time. Feedback’s always positive if you take the right lesson from it 😛

cheers, thanks again

https://m.soundcloud.com/rhys-rj-fraser/sets/on-a-song-that-i-wrote


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OD-OldDog
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Rhys, now that I've learned you are okay with learning as you go and intend to keep your music as a hobby (which I feel has it's advantages as well as disadvantages), please don't misunderstand nor dismiss someone like Peter Kristian who offers you advise based on his years of experience and wisdom in the music industry.  You may feel Peter's advise does not apply to where you are at in your music journey; but he is merely offering some friendly advise because he has worked with many early stage music enthusiasts during his career but most likely many more hoping to take their music to the next level.

I admit I too tend to think in terms of offering advise (even with my limited experience) thinking a newer singer/songwriter is seeking advise to improve their skills; whether only to improve to appease their own enjoyment to write and perform better songs for family and friends; or in most cases with singer/songwriters they will reveal a desire to take their songs to the next level hoping their songs will catch the attention of the Pro's. 

I'm sure you know already but allow me to repeat this.  On a songwriting site like this one; or any other one; the nice comments with a friendly "pat on the back" are very welcomed and good to hear; but they will not force anyone to take notice how they may improve as someone willing to offer some constructive criticism; regardless of how well it's received by you.  There are truly no "Trolls" on this site, only those offering their advise whether you choose to take it or not.

OD


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NO OFFENCE AT ALL-- I have been there myself ,  Keep on  improving  that's 

the  only way ;   Well Done appreciate the reply 

 


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RhysFraser
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Hey OD, thanks for commenting. I hear what you’re saying, tbh I do post here looking for criticism, as even if I don’t have any real ambition in music, I love writing it and I want to be better at it. That said, I’ve historically been bad with taking criticism, something I’m getting better about. Definitely appreciate Peter’s advice and experience, which is obviously a great resource in many ways. Just wanted to apologize because frankly I was very rude a while back and that just ain’t okay 😛 Anyways, always good to hear from ya, don’t hesitate to speak your mind if I post something you don’t like or you see a way I could improve it. After all, blistering critiques lead to callouses, and callouses turn thin skin thick! 

Cheers

https://m.soundcloud.com/rhys-rj-fraser/sets/on-a-song-that-i-wrote


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RhysFraser
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Glad to hear! Thanks again Peter. Hope you’re doing well, and thanks again for taking the time to give me such thorough feedback. Means a lot! Hope to hear from ya soon!

Cheers

https://m.soundcloud.com/rhys-rj-fraser/sets/on-a-song-that-i-wrote


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RhysFraser
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Thanks dude, I certainly hope I’ve got some better songs in me! Honestly now and then someone may hit a nerve, but generally I’ve always tried to take criticism in a positive way. If someone’s lending me their time, even if I don’t agree with their insights I can appreciate that they’re trying to help, and that I can only absorb that advice insofar as my own perception allows... them good ol’ unknown unknowns. Anyways, I’m sure I’ll keep trying to get better. I’ve got a neurotic need to get better so I don’t think I’m going to placate any time soon. Side note; I usually precede profane lyric sets with a disclaimer so folks like you can skip it. Forgot to yesterday, but I’ll make a point of doing so consistently going forward. Cheers

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